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leoo11 · **註冊時間:** 2010-01-19 01:21 **文章:** 776

Andy Kong 寫:

leoo11 寫:

first of all, thank you for all the experience expert, who gave
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thanks.

leoo11 · **註冊時間:** 2010-01-19 01:21 **文章:** 776

Andy, thanks for your experience warning, which I may not think of.

1. How long does it take from baby fishes grow to stable actually?
2. At the beginning, I may look for about 5 pair of different fishes. If I can breed to an adult fish, I know it will be more and more.
3. I was thinking to take out the fishes to other tank for breeding. but, not when they are about to have babies. Sorry that I do not have experience on it but I thought it will be okay while I talk to some shop whom is selling these fishes. And I saw a big tank with plenty of these fishes. In case if they are about to have babies in the big tank, I would leave them in the big tank and wouldn't brother at all. I think the natural environment would be the same case, right?

I am having these fishes in my small 18" tank. They seems okay to each other and I think it will be okay in a even bigger tank.

Andy Kong · **發表於 :** 2010-05-16 01:28

leoo11 寫:

Andy, thanks for your experience warning, which I may not think of.

1. How long does it take from baby fishes grow to stable actually?
2. At the beginning, I may look for about 5 pair of different fishes. If I can breed to an adult fish, I know it will be more and more.
3. I was thinking to take out the fishes to other tank for breeding. but, not when they are about to have babies. Sorry that I do not have experience on it but I thought it will be okay while I talk to some shop whom is selling these fishes. And I saw a big tank with plenty of these fishes. In case if they are about to have babies in the big tank, I would leave them in the big tank and wouldn't brother at all. I think the natural environment would be the same case, right?

I am having these fishes in my small 18" tank. They seems okay to each other and I think it will be okay in a even bigger tank.

(1) This is an important factor to your plan, so you better do some homework, dig out old posts in this forum and find out the correct answer, and then try to visualise the implication to your plan.

(2) so only two out of five pair can have breeding facilities, the other three pairs will need to wait. So on top of question (1), how long will it take for a pair of 短鯛 to complete their breedig process? In other word, once you put a pair of 短鯛 into a breeding tank, how long will that tank be occupied by this pair of 短鯛 and their babies? Please figure that out in advance, otherwise it is impossible to know whether TWO breeding tank is enough.

(3) Some more questions to follow up: on top of 短鯛. what other fishes wil you put into the 48" tank? Will there be any 工作魚？ are you sure you'll keep 10 small fishes in the 48" tank only? what is the total target number of fishes in your setup.

Regarding the natural environment, you are trying to compare your 4ft aquarium with Amazon River.

In Amazon River, when a pair of 短鯛 has picked a special HIDDEN corner as their breeding ground, they'll make sure that there isn't any 短鯛 or natural enemies habitat in "surrounding", by surrounding, we probably means 2-3 meter radius at least, and that probably will equal to not least then 2000L of water space (1000L = 1 cubic meter of water), and they'll guard their egg/baby fishes against "passing by" fishes only.

If we use this as an simple reference, that means when you have 5 pair of 短鯛 in 230L water, the density is around 50 times higher then natural environment. If you have another 10 small 工作魚 + 20 small 燈魚, then the fish density is probably 200 times higher.

So can you visualise the different between a 4 ft aquarium vs the natural environment (Amazon River)?

leoo11 · **註冊時間:** 2010-01-19 01:21 **文章:** 776

Andy,
I have go through alot of old post before. But, the actual problem occured might not be the same as what I thought.
You had a 短鯛 tank in your jazz cafe according to the history post. are you keeping a few fishes only? you only keep one fish each kind in order not to breed them?
I don't know whether it will work. what if I keep two 12" breeding tank. When there are babies, it will be living with parents. when the baby fish grow, then I can move them to the big tank. So, I will have to keep only 2 fishes in the breeding tank always. how many of fishes can it be in a 4' tank?
In the other way, I have also consider of the water termp. plants are best for 24-26 degree. 短鯛 need to be 26-28 degree. so, 26 degree could be balance for both in term of health? how about the ph? does the plants grow well with ph 5.5-6?
thanks for your reminder again before things are setup. what do you think?

Andy Kong · **發表於 :** 2010-05-18 10:36

曾試過個水陸缸做將魚缸，但就未試短鯛主題缸，因為要短鯛出色其實要較暗的環，加些枯枝和枯葉襯托，但對草境而言這卻不會太吸引。在 cafe 用短鯛作主題也頗有限制，因為短鯛在 dispaly 時會較平時美麗好多好多，但對顧客而言這卻可遇不可求的時機，所以難令他們 appreciate 的，而且玩短鯛的重點是繁殖培養， cafe 也不是一個合適的地方。

我相信你是將 Cafe 內的慈鯛主題缸混淆了！

leoo11 · **註冊時間:** 2010-01-19 01:21 **文章:** 776

thanks andy,

I am having the small tank for it now. big tank will come about a month later, so I still have a chance to take the experience . By the way, I will do some searching about 慈鯛.

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