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hi water grass bro,
do you know below which CO2 diffuser has better performance? your valuable comment is highly appreciated. :f :f :f :f

UP401 -
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多功能CO2溶解器 - http://www.aquastore.com.hk/details.php?productid=340
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Hydro turbo CO2 diffuser - http://www.hydor.it/en/products/show/25
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ISTA 高效率CO2溶解器 - http://miru.com.tw/shop1/goods-2296-ISTA+%E9%AB%98%E6%95%88%E7%8E%87CO2%E6%BA%B6%E8%A7%A3%E5%99%A8%28L%29.html
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用過up牌子不過 ISTA 咁長啲size的擴散器, 最初諗話可以外置先試,加了防漏膠都漏水,最後可能Co2壓力大爆了 :-n03
可能放係嗰缸入面會好D,不過冇試過,因為都唔細!
最後買了個魚街港產"龍之風",用咗一個月,好滿意,可以推介!!(雖然都係放係缸入面,不過細好多,有不同size選) :-n01


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Hi MR1,
港產"龍之風"?
do you have photo to share? how much? tks


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用過 UP401 和 Hydro, 第二種多功能CO2溶解器用過兩隻: ISIT 和 Boyu.

我用過嘅,會咁排法:
UP401
ISTA 溶解器
Hydro
Boyu 溶解器

UP401 我用過幾次都係內置,佢話可以外置,但我覺得個 design 唔適合外置,所以一路都無試過。之前的 7 ft 主 display 缸用左 2 個 401,做 Co2 溶解兼底層做流,效果好好!

Hydro 你收得好都好正,要就水流,否則擴散力不足!

ISTA 和 Boyu 溶解器以前講過:
http://www2.aqugrass.com/phpBB2/viewtop ... 983#536983

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3呎缸一個401夠唔夠用?
最後果個reactor幾得意,邊度有賣 :j


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thanks a lot Andy bro for your experience sharing.
Now I am using Hydro turbo diffuser, shall I need to change to UP401?
I can see you have used different kind of CO2 diffusers, UP401 is the one you put it at top in the list and used seveal times. please your valuable comment is highly appreciated. :-n10 :-n10 :-n10 :-n10


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thanks a lot Andy bro for your experience sharing.
Now I am using Hydro turbo diffuser, shall I need to change to UP401?
I can see you have used different kind of CO2 diffusers, UP401 is the one you put it at top in the list and used seveal times. please your valuable comment is highly appreciated. :-n10 :-n10 :-n10 :-n10


It depends on size of your tank and your existing water flow arrangement, can you tell me more about this? size and detail of filter and water outlet placement position? density of plants? If picture is included, make it easier to comment.

Do you feel the "need" to change that? UP401 is cheap, so it is not the hardware cost the need serious consideration, but whether that change is on the top of your priority matters.

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Andy Kong 寫:
It depends on size of your tank and your existing water flow arrangement, can you tell me more about this? size and detail of filter and water outlet placement position? density of plants? If picture is included, make it easier to comment.
Do you feel the "need" to change that? UP401 is cheap, so it is not the hardware cost the need serious consideration, but whether that change is on the top of your priority matters.


thanks again Andy bro,
my tank size is 24"x8"x12", I will take a photo to you later for your reference.
regarding about whether the "need" to change, fully agreed with you that cost is not the major issue but only the performance of diffuser will be the key of reason to me.
thanks for your swift response as usual. :c :c :c :c


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可否解釋下個出水安排?蛇喉? DIY 出水擴 散?兩個濾桶?是什麼型號?個缸已經有太多濾材,唔建議放 UP 401 落個缸內。你現在的草種和草量應不會對 Co2 需要有特別要求。為美觀理由可考慮放棄軟水樹脂和改用ISTA 溶解器。如無油脂問題,連吸油器也可放棄! :-n05 :-n05

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Andy Kong 寫:
可否解釋下個出水安排?蛇喉? DIY 出水擴 散?兩個濾桶?是什麼型號?個缸已經有太多濾材,唔建議放 UP 401 落個缸內。你現在的草種和草量應不會對 Co2 需要有特別要求。為美觀理由可考慮放棄軟水樹脂和改用ISTA 溶解器。如無油脂問題,連吸油器也可放棄! :-n05 :-n05



Hi Andy, below is the explanation of my grass tank system

可否解釋下個出水安排?sure no problem.

1st set up -
water-in 吸油器 from left hand side of the tank --> Eheim 2224 700L/hr 濾桶 (50% 生物環 and 50% 生化棉) --> UV 9w --> 蛇喉 - (offshoot with 軟水樹脂) -> DIY 出水擴散 at right hand side of the tank.

2nd set up -
water-in from left hand side of the tank --> Hydro P20 600L/hr 濾桶 (100% 生物環)--> Hailea 130A cooler --> 出水 at top left corner.

C02 set up - (3 bubble per second)
1L CO2 can with 雙錶頭電池伐 --> bubble count --> Hydro turbo diffuser

Lighting set up -
Aqua Gem T5HO 24w x 4

thanks in advance for your valuable comment again.


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龍之風


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請問龍之風約多少錢?

好似同UP401但無左


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Andy Kong 寫:
可否解釋下個出水安排?蛇喉? DIY 出水擴 散?兩個濾桶?是什麼型號?個缸已經有太多濾材,唔建議放 UP 401 落個缸內。你現在的草種和草量應不會對 Co2 需要有特別要求。為美觀理由可考慮放棄軟水樹脂和改用ISTA 溶解器。如無油脂問題,連吸油器也可放棄! :-n05 :-n05



Hi Andy, below is the explanation of my grass tank system

可否解釋下個出水安排?sure no problem.

1st set up -
water-in 吸油器 from left hand side of the tank --> Eheim 2224 700L/hr 濾桶 (50% 生物環 and 50% 生化棉) --> UV 9w --> 蛇喉 - (offshoot with 軟水樹脂) -> DIY 出水擴散 at right hand side of the tank.

2nd set up -
water-in from left hand side of the tank --> Hydro P20 600L/hr 濾桶 (100% 生物環)--> Hailea 130A cooler --> 出水 at top left corner.

C02 set up - (3 bubble per second)
1L CO2 can with 雙錶頭電池伐 --> bubble count --> Hydro turbo diffuser

Lighting set up -
Aqua Gem T5HO 24w x 4

thanks in advance for your valuable comment again.


Between Eheim 2224 and Hydro P20, which is stronger? Be remind that Chiller require stronger flow and UV prefer slower flow.

Is the DIY 出水擴散 really working? For the amount of resource you put into the setup, I don't understand why you stick with this, a ADA (or pseudo ADA) 出水 will work perfectly well. I suggest you use two set of that, and arrange the two water outlet at two rear top corners aiming at the middle of the tank, in my experience, this will allow very even flow in the aquarium with two water outlet and without involving ugly rain pipe in the top area of the layout. Get rid of the 軟水樹脂, it is completely useless in HK especially if you use ADA substract. HK water is soft water already, so unless you put in a lot of rock in the setup, you don't need anything like that.

You can try to put the Hydro near one of the water-in area, see if the Co2 dispersion will be improved.


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Hi Andy,
thousand thanks to your valuable comment.
thanks for your great help


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