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請問你用那一iodine? 對抱卵有冇幫助?

1. 我用的是Kent牌。
2. 唔清楚會否影響抱卵。

1,2 同kelvin6666大大一樣

尚未找到科學上的論政,好用與否只是心理作用
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Hi,

Do you have english spelling for ©ø¥¬?

"Kelp", searched through Google.

Thank you, Kelvin6666. Understand that pharmacy sell kelp tablet, some Cichlid hobbyists mix kelp tablets with food, as Cichlid needs lot of Iodine, if not they will have jaw problem.

hi all,

雖然依我之前research所知--seachem iodide比kent iodine較為stable....但我左想右想...始終不放心加chemical....

我search關於"碘"在食物上既資料, 原來"碘"多在"海帶、紫菜、海產、食鹽等"食物中攝取 (source from: http://www.dabhk.com/health/food4.htm#b5c )
而螺旋藻(spirulina)是其中一種含"碘"較多的海中生物 (source from: http://www.zktz-china.com/sdp/90074/3/cp-927327.html)
這樣說, 螺旋藻已經是"碘"既其中一種補充劑?
*很多糧也有螺旋藻成分

再看看太陽牌既蟹糧(Crab Cuisine)和藻糧(Algae Wafers)成份吧:
Crab Cuisine: http://www.hikariusa.com/crab_cuisine.htm
Algae Wafers: http://www.hikariusa.com/algae_wafers.htm
Crab Cuisine和Algae Wafers都有一種成份叫"calcium iodate" (http://www.iodine.com/calcium.htm ), 我想calcium iodate也有碘既成分吧?!
而Crab Cuisine有"salt"的成份, "salt"是"食鹽"嗎? "食鹽"也是補充"碘"的其中一項東西...
而Algae Wafers也有"spirulina" (螺旋藻)...
* 以上東西也不知道成份比例
**事實上, 市面既魚/蝦/蟹糧也有碘的成分....但多少? 我也不太清楚.

雖然我已知日常給蝦吃的東西中有"碘"的成份, 但足夠嗎? 如果太多/太少, 會有負作用嗎? 這是我最終弄不清的問題 --- "營養均衡"

ps. 最後無聊, 給大家看看螺旋藻丸的成份.......E?!!.... 點解沒有"碘"呢?? ><

I believe the amount of iodine in plant varies according to the amount of trace iodine on the soil/water it grow in. So if that part of earth does not have iodine in soil/water, whatever you grow will not have iodine.

hi blenny,

do u know what is "spirulina" actually?
it is not "plant". it is a kind of marine algae . most of marine algae contain plenty iodine at naturally state.

have u read it carefully? http://www.zktz-china.com/sdp/90074/3/cp-927327.html
quote:
"海洋蔬菜，紫色蔬菜粉（圖）海帶、紫菜等和螺旋藻
維生素、比陸地蔬菜含量更豐富的鈣、碘、鐵、硒等微量元素"

of cos' trace iodine is totally different from iodine in food....
cos' trace iodine is extra chemical resource and "iodine in food" is ready at food chain.

i raise a main main point:
why do we add trace iodine / iodide to instead of feeding natural resource?

why do we add trace iodine / iodide to instead of feeding natural resource?

I think the answer is the same as why would one take Vitamin C pill instead of eating an orange. . I see the adding of iodine/iodide like Kent is not necessary if the food for shrimps contains iodide, and if the food does not have iodine, then adminstration of iodine preparation into water is needed.

Do you notice no (I can be wrong, but let me know)Japanese webiste on shrimps mentioned to add iodine preparation into water, whereas American website and hobbyists mentioned that? Well, I believe those shrimp food made by Japanese had already taken care of the iodine in the diet.

Yes, of course, I know what is spirulina. I ate them before. It tasted bad. My understanding is cultivated spirulina can be grown in salt water pond, not necessary sea water, and that can explain why too little iodine to be mentioned on YOUR bottle label. However, those cultivated in Seawater, there is no reason for no iodine.

I used the word plant as a general term to explain amount of iodine in plant/algae depends on the enviroment. There is a strong relationship between trace iodine in soil/water and the plant that grow on it because that's where plant get its iodine from.

hi blenny again,

of cos' i noticed that American websites mention about iodine / iodide but japanese doen't. i also got urs. however, the true is....we got both information, why dun we digest all of it? that's why i stand for naturally feed method, like japanese!
(we have both stuff at HK. how lucky we are!)

and i absolutely agree with ur point about vit. C. (i swear i got the same thought be4, too) that's why i raised those silly questions on previous post.

i am wondering why there are no mention about iodine content on spirulina pill label....heheee....
cos':
1. over dose iodine can get rid of human health
2. iodine may not be one of major elements on human body....
(guess only....for fun =P)

have u noticed my previous post about shrimp food contents?
i am cusious why they never mentioned about iodine in shrimp food? is that because of shrimp can naturally get it easily, like algae? or it is not major nutrition for shrimp? if so, why should we add trace iodine /iodidine? i still can't find further information on this task. perhaps, the discussion would be a good starting point on these "question marks".

ps. i am sorry that if i am too serious on the word "plant". cos' in my mind, plant and algae is quit different from each other. sorry again!

Hi Winz,

I have both Crab Cuisine and Alage Wafer in my fridge. I have another brand of fish food, that is mean for Cichlid, and spirulina & cray fish is listed as ingredient, no mentioned of calcium iodate, but I guess iodine is derived from cray fish and spirulina.

See this about calcium iodate:
The quality accords with FDA. It is steady, scentless, non-peculiar smell, non-hygroscopic. It is white crystal or crystalline powder, soluble in nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, slightly soluble in water and not soluble in ethanol. It is a good trace element additive for iodine origin. It can be used to prevention and cure lack iodine disease, accelerate the domestic animals growth, increasing the utility rate of feed, increase propagating and the yield rate of eggs. It may be used to produce the high iodine content eggs for health protection and medical treatment.

Appearance: White powder or milk yellow crystal powder.



The calcium iodate in fish/shrimp food is what we are after, it provides iodine to shrimps, that solve the iodine problem. Calcium iodate is an excellent additive, it provides 2 essential mineral to shrimps.

I am quite reserved about adding iodine preparation into water, unless I have incomplete moultings after trying with food failed. However, bad moultings can due to sudden water change or chlorine in water, so got to rule out these before adding iodine preparation into water.

I think when comes to shrimp hobby, we better don;t rely on american/european website, Asians hobbyists are more advanced then them on this. I have also noticed some errors in English webpages, likely due to translation from Japanese website, which can be misleading.

No problem, on the misunderstanding of the word "plant".

hi blenny,

i guess ur hikari Crab Cuisine and Alage Wafer should be bottle package. i got both bottle package and bag package. there are NO detail ingredient on bottle package but bag package have.

i have hikari sinking wafers and lionhead food....both of them have Calcium iodate.

where do u buy Crab Cuisine? i can't find it at HK. ><

yes, i noticed that Calcium iodate is food additive.... however, i dunno how to make good use of it.

to be honest, i think american/european can't get better stuff to keep lower pH and gH. thus, they are not easy to keep shrimp in good condition. (my silly thought only) i can only say....theirs are traditional method (even no method) but japanese are using the modern one.

Winz,

I am using the bag package type, and there is details.

I am not in HK. But if you want Crab Cusine, I can mail to you.