水草情迷

第一次在此發言, 先向各草友問好!!

經過一番「奇遇」,家人在廣州買o在一套50''子彈型套裝缸(連櫃)並託運回港。我o地一心想用來種水草, 但係全無經驗。好彩某日多手在網上找到水草情迷,否則已變成FS的大水魚了。個缸d specs

50'(L)X18.5'(W)X23'(H),
3枝Jebo Luxline Plus (30W/T8 870) 　　
2枝Jebo Luxline Plus (8W/T5 868)
過濾,Atman

昨日到FS盪o在入碧X, 想大家分享o下佢d建議之餘順便解答本人之疑惑...(Total $6110, plus shipping to天水圍 $200)

$1200=8包日本泥5kg （我在FS找不到ADA黑泥, 有冇人知道邊處有？)
$ 300=6套底喉（Search過d舊post後打算唔買）
$ 250=潛水頭（Do I still need it when I 唔買底喉？）
$1100=CO2瓶 2kg（is 2kg the size suitable for my tank? where cheaper?）
$ 830=電磁閥連計泡器、顯示燈（Too expensive for me la. ）
$1050=pH Controller（I consider it's too fancy for new starter. Any alternative?）
$ 450=發熱線（Again, search過d舊post後打算唔買）
$ 210=硝化菌劑
$ 400=石英暖管 300W（碧X at first suggested me to have two...how many do I need? By the way, I have seen some sort of external heater from old posts. Did anyone tried them and how much are they? ）
$ 380= 細化杯
$ 150= 叉氣

我自覺係條高危水魚 ，大家可否建議o下邊d物品同牌子值得用？
All suggestions and comments are welcome.

小弟咩都唔識.但係見到細化器要$210 0甘多錢.你買左好多個咩? 純粹好奇.有錯請指教

They (碧x) quoted $380 for the CO2 diffuser. I think I should type 擴散器 instead of 細化杯, sorry

純個人意見
ADA黑泥，在香港水族有限公司，到魚街地圖看看 8包一定有折打，多小 睇你啦 我一包都有 折。
底喉 草缸不用
潛水頭冇底喉不用，用左又加水温了。
到新基有你選擇，平$200鋼瓶，貴$400鋁瓶，已差滿氣 。
電磁閥e shop 有$400新基都有 ；大陸賣$10仿ada計泡器。顯示燈
pH Controller 買左新屎坑用三個月左右，就長放柜中 。
叉氣新樽已有

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你一天中僅有這麼多個小時，你只能在這個時間內努力工作，那麼為甚麼為錢而拚命工作呢？是不是應該學會讓錢和別人為你工作？這樣你才能夠自由自在地去做其他重要的事情。

我果陣乜都唔識又係走去碧x買個18"缸,果陣佢都想屈我買好多野,
好在我女朋友厭貴,唔比我買,淨係買左個缸,好彩好彩~

我都可以用有限o既知識講下,扮下代表先
$1200=8包日本泥5kg
咩日本泥?? $1200可買7.5包ada泥,新發記有售,但真正招牌名唔記得左

底喉, 潛水頭呢到好多人都唔用,一樣玩得靚靚

$1100=CO2瓶 2kg, 去新基買個滅火桶都唔洗咁貴

$ 830=電磁閥連計泡器、顯示燈!?
電磁閥,我用近bioplast $350蚊,年幾都好好
計泡器,仿ada大陸野,$35蚊, 去michael到買,(又係唔記得舖名,sorry)
顯示燈,咩黎架???

pH Controller個人應為無乜用,成千銀,做多幾個缸都仲得
發熱線又係個人應為可有可無
硝化菌劑我比較喜歡種菌多d
石英暖管 300W (真係唔識,no comment)
$ 380= 細化杯, 去新發記買boyu剛好可買10隻
$ 150= 叉氣, 新瓶, 叉乜Q野氣, 再叉會唔會爆

上左黎之後,我而家行過碧x,望都唔望下佢,係火都黎
SORRY,好似大激動了~

暖管去生虫睇下, 台制石英管連控制器, 唔駛 二百. 一枝放係出水或入水口應該可以夠打晒成缸.

好似唔見有過濾, 既然都可以係廣州買缸, 順手買多兩個 jabeo 大桶啦, 都係2 舊水一個.都唔駛.

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Con-ichi-wa Miyuki San

你搵到好地方la, welcome to aqugrass.com

以下純個人意見:

50'(L)X18.5'(W)X23'(H),
3枝Jebo Luxline Plus (30W/T8 870) 　　
2枝Jebo Luxline Plus (8W/T5 868)

你個缸約有350升水, 又高23吋 , 總共得 106w電燈, 除非你種"陰性水草"就可以。外國網站多數建議 1升1w。我相信要150w hqi x 2 好過 5支光管。 ps 想知套大陸缸幾多錢呢? 我早前做左個60吋子彈缸4分玻璃連百葉門的樻連送到上門, $6400 元

過濾,Atman
唔知你個atman 係咪瀘桶呢?如果係就好la, 種水草多數會用瀘桶, 不用缸頂過濾。不過都要計一計, 你個缸約350升, 你個桶最好有運行2400-3500升的流量才可夠過濾及做水流。瀘桶最出名eheim, hydor, fuval


昨日到FS盪o在入碧X, 想大家分享o下佢d建議之餘順便解答本人之疑惑...(Total $6110, plus shipping to天水圍 $200)

你真係"送羊入虎口"盪入碧X, 下次盪入卡奇會找到d平野。一係就叫網友幫你買送埋上門, 差價用來食飯好過。

$1200=8包日本泥5kg （我在FS找不到ADA黑泥, 有冇人知道邊處有？)

我早前在"香港水族世界見到有ada黑泥, 價錢唔記得。 我覺得買5包黑泥舖住3吋厚先啦!"

$ 300=6套底喉（Search過d舊post後打算唔買）

種水草.....唔可以用......套底喉, 真搵笨係100%呃錢!

$ 250=潛水頭（Do I still need it when I 唔買底喉？）

唔用底喉過瀘, 唔駛買。除非水流唔夠。

$1100=CO2瓶 2kg（is 2kg the size suitable for my tank? where cheaper?）

CO2瓶 2kg上海街, 新填地街有 $200-300一個。雙錶頭可以同van買, 約$400一個

$ 830=電磁閥連計泡器、顯示燈（Too expensive for me la. ）

雙錶頭可以同van買, 約$400一個。電磁閥我唔用，因為我係一年365日24小時全開。一秒3-4個co2波波可以用半年至9個月全開。

$1050=pH Controller（I consider it's too fancy for new starter. Any alternative?）

$30一盒ph試劑用...50次 (睇來佢食人連骨都吞埋 )

$ 450=發熱線（Again, search過d舊post後打算唔買）

我無用到, 香港只有一兩個月冷d, 水溫同泥的溫唔會太大。我唔用都一樣種到草如太陽, 爬地熊等

$ 210=硝化菌劑
我未用過。硝化菌=細菌唔落都有大把存在。如果都怕無, 問網友取d用緊既生物環(廿多粒就夠la)。話時話, 唔見你買生物環既, d硝化菌可以在那裡生存呢? 唔通間野話比你知 只用棉就得!?!?

$ 400=石英暖管 300W（碧X at first suggested me to have two...how many do I need? By the way, I have seen some sort of external heater from old posts. Did anyone tried them and how much are they? ）

去卡奇睇tetra 300w 約 $250樓下

$ 380= 細化杯

卡奇大陸野 30-40, 我用緊。如果你要型仔, 就梗係ada la。

$ 150= 叉氣

新買都要叉氣? 好似已經滿氣 lor wor。我相信佢不是"叉氣", 而係 叉你d銀紙wor(這一項係 100%的---呃, 騙局, 你即場叫佢扭開支co2比你睇有無氣la)

今日交完part time論文, 先有時間回覆你。不過真係好睇唔過眼咁去呃錢呃新人 。

ps: 叫街車 旺角返天水圍都係 $160。

如果有錯誤遺漏, 請多多包涵, 高人指正!

我在7號係祥X見到有ADA黑泥和紅泥都有好多,不妨去睇

$1200=8包日本泥5kg （我在FS找不到ADA黑泥, 有冇人知道邊處有？)
-- 香港水族xx, 祥X, 卡x見到有ADA黑泥 $180 / 9L
$ 300=6套底喉（Search過d舊post後打算唔買）
-- No need
$ 250=潛水頭（Do I still need it when I 唔買底喉？）
-- No need
$1100=CO2瓶 2kg（is 2kg the size suitable for my tank?
where cheaper?）
--新基, $200鋼瓶 or $400鋁瓶，已差滿氣 。
$ 830=電磁閥連計泡器、顯示燈（Too expensive for me la. ）
--電磁閥e shop / 新基都有 $400
--計泡器 祥X, 卡x $35
$1050=pH Controller（I consider it's too fancy for new starter. Any alternative?）
--No need
$ 450=發熱線（Again, search過d舊post後打算唔買）
--No need
$ 210=硝化菌劑
-- $60 AB / $80 Dupla 硝化菌 in FS
$ 400=石英暖管 300W（碧X at first suggested me to have two...how many do I need? By the way, I have seen some sort of external heater from old posts. Did anyone tried them and how much are they? ）
--Only 1 external heater 300W, around $300. But you need to check with your water pipe connector : 16mm
$ 380= 細化杯
-- 祥X, 卡x $35
$ 150= 叉氣
-- 新基 $70

唔得, 我都未響果間黑店度買過野, 有空閒時間真係要試下問佢五呎水草缸連樻連儀器係咩價錢先.... (當然要扮無知啦, 仲要好似好多錢果隻添....衫袋露幾張金牛, 大牛 比佢睇)

睇下5萬蚊落唔落到樓...哈! 我相信好過去睇戲,

好開心gum快收到gum多高見, 謝謝大家


有冇你個樣ge面具可以借我去香港水族買泥 (kidding)
Sorry我打漏左雙錶頭，個 shopkeeper wrote "雙錶頭連電磁閥及有顯示燈-$830"(都係更正番公道d)gum樣個價會唔會似樣d ne?哈哈，不過就算係我都唔同佢買la，仲唔夠咩
唉.....不過叉氣ne個大話就太離譜

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Miyuki san

請問你個50吋缸連運費到香港要多少錢呢?

Thanks, SuperCTW

個缸係廣州送o黎跟o在個Atman At-3338 external filter。
就係廣州個邊將成盒野放係個缸裡又唔ptotect 好個缸，攪到個缸裡面有快玻璃broken在 ，好在個缸仲用得

こんにちは,公平者さん
Thanks for your detailed reply

There's a long stories for the tank.
個缸係家人係大陸託個人去廣州訂，因我唔我安排所以不太清楚。
個價就 個套缸HK$850, 個櫃就不可確實，但聽家人講缸連櫃約$17xx。另外託運$4xx。 :d It indeed a pretty good deal (in term of price)但係就一肚氣。Because

Poor packaging:
個缸無釘箱!! and they put a 桶濾 inside the tank without checking its safety. One of the mounting glass at the bottom of tank had been broken!!

Poor services:
We have ordered a custom-made chest which is taller than the orginal. The 廣州supplier shipped a wrong one to us on the 1st delivery. We complainted to their office in china where they promised to ship the right one on the very next day. ( but we still have to pay delivery charges)
On the next day we got a very late delivery, of a shaky chest. No doubt it wont be strong enough to support a 50' tank, not to mentioned a fully-filled one......

Everytime we called the supplier's office we heard their staffs chit-chatting on the background. For some strange reason we dont need to pay in advance of delivery. But we still have to deal with a wrong chest and a shaky 'chest'.

Whether it worths to order tank from China after considered the 'risks' and uncertainties as above is up to consumer's decision. But I wont not recommend it. Unless you checked everythings in details ( with your own eyes, not others), particularly watching them to pack your stuffs (in person).


(ps. haha, better to type english ...much faster)