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 文章主題 : [問題]HQI的溫度?
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想問有hqi的朋友, 你們的hqi表面溫度實際有多熱呢? 用手指touch會否燙傷呢?

如果hqi只離水面2-3吋會有甚麼後果呢?


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試過隔住玻璃測過, 一百度O既測錶都爆錶, 用手指一定會燙傷O架.
離水面咁近, O的水升幾度都似. 而且有機會魚缸水會淺到呀.

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我問過香港一間Philips代理, 佢話唔會好熱, just warm, 我都覺得唔係好相信.

super兄, 撇開水溫, 對水草及魚有否嚴重影嚮?


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我用台灣定製的hqi 150w,用手摸燈的鋁壳,只是有點暖,而火牛加上風扇後連暖都感覺不到,但水溫就高了2-3度(离水面6-7吋) .


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Is the high temp of HQI mostly due to the ballast??
Maybe those with detached ballast (ie ballast away from the bulb) can tell us about it, pls.


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我個支個火牛是分開的.
雖然D光射出來都幾熱下,但如果加一把風扇都可以KEEP到水溫26度到.


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Ken,

我同你一樣...
都係加把風扇吹著個玻璃面
而個鋁殼就只係有少少熱
個火牛因為加了風扇
仲涼過支燈...


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係呀!個火牛仲涼過支燈呀! 只係加左把8CM風扇.而個鋁殼都只係近風扇果邊有少少熱,反而D光射出來重熱,一定要加風扇.今日我未開燈時23度,開左2-3小時水溫己升到25度(因今日天氣涼所以冇開風扇).


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temp of the blub of course very high la.
it mush be hot enough to 汽化blub內的metal salt to emitt light.
if not hot enough, the efficiency will be very low.


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Here is an introduction to the metal halide technology for those interested to learn a little more:

"Metal halide lamps work on the same general principles
as fluorescent lighting, namely by passing an
electric current through a gas-filled tube via some
type of ballast. Generally, the process is known
as high-intensity discharge (HID). In this case,
the gas used is vaporized mercury, which is
supplemented by additional metal iodides such
as thallium, indium and sodium. It is the
addition of these extra elements which allows the
characteristics of the light source to be carefully
controlled.
When an electric arc is produced between the
lamp electrodes, the metallic and iodine ions are
separated, and the energized metal ions emit
visible light. The gases cool as they approach the
outer surface of the arc tube, allowing ions to
recombine and flow back towards the electric arc
by convection alone.
Although the light produced by metal halide
lamps is of high quality (i.e. it is white) and high
efficacy, this technology does have drawbacks,
which presently include lengthy restarting after a
shutdown (due to cooling requirements) and high
UV radiation levels. Their brightness also
demands specially designed fixtures.
Nevertheless, metal halide lamps offer significant
potential as a point lighting source in the next
century. An efficacy of 150 Lumens/Watt is likely
achievable by the year 2030. In comparison,
current metal halide lamps display efficacies of
90 to 105 Lumens/Watt, including the ballast.
The 35% higher efficacy would reduce connected
light loads in typical high bay applications from
current levels of 21 W/m² (2 W/ft²) to 14 W/m²
(1.3 W/ft²) in the year 2030.
Improved electronic ballasts will likely reduce
lamp size and allow instant restrike capability, as
well as improving efficacy from the present levels.

Source(s) of Information:
(1) E-Source Lighting Technology Atlas 1997, ESource,
Boulder CO.
(2) Lighting Research Center (LRC), Rensselaer
Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
(3)Advanced Lighting Technologies (ADLT) /
Venture Lighting International Inc.
www.adlt.com

One of my former collegue was doing research on high performance e-ballast for MH bulb. I saw one of his prototype,
which is very compact (~ 5"x2"x2"), and light weighted too (no heavy transformer, replace by high voltage solid state power electronic components) and can be dimmed between 100% to 10% without flickering. He has left the Uni now to join a company to bring the result of his research into commercial production. He told me the material cost is around ~HKD 100.
Maybe we will soon find very efficient e-ballast for MH bulb on the market. That will be good news for fish fans!


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Another piece of info:
http://www.energy.wsu.edu/cfdocs/tg/24.pdf

As many of u may have known, MH lamp requires much more
knowledge (compare to old-fashion flourescent tube, or PL tube) on the part of the user, and is more dangerous if not diy properly (for those who like to diy, or bought a made-in-china & cheap system). It pays to be careful about it.


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WOO.. 很正O既電子牛功能, 如果合用又安全, 真的是一個很大的喜訊, 之前以為已經出了高壓的電子牛, 完來還在發展中, 怪不得找不到.

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Yes Super,
We were sharing the same office room b4 he left. And i saw the e-ballast was really compact and light weighted. His research group has collaboration with Phillips lighting and Venture lighting, and according to what he said, Phillips is very interested in the new e-ballast: high efficiency, compact, low EMI interference, and dimmable over a wide range. They have got a US patent for the technology too.
Another group in my Uni is also working on another design, and they have formed a Uni-affiliated company called e-energy that is perfecting a new e-ballast.
So i think very soon we will see some new products on advance lighting coming out in the market.


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